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language helps	02 Oct 2006
Hello to all. My son just entered the MTC on Sept 27 2006 and has written home for any helps with the indonesian language. So far they have spent a day and a half trying to teach themselves. I have printed all of the language helps listed on the message board and the song itsee bitsee spider! I was wondering if there is anyone in the Provo area who could volunteer to round up any helpful materials and or volunteer to do some teaching either about the language or culture etc. Thanks Sis Debby Thiemann ps there are 2 Elders and a Sister in his District counting him. He already has some conference talks on CD that he took with him.
Marcus Charles Thiemann	Send Email

Tsumani video from 2004	13 Sep 2006
Does anyone know if the video of the 2004 tsunami that was presented at the spring 2005 missionary reunion is available for purchase? There is a geology professor that is interested in obtaining a copy. Thanks, Jean.
Jean R Daddow	Send Email

Wayne Jones Address	18 Jun 2006
I would like to know the address of Wayne Jones. I know he lives in the San Francisco area. He was one of my LTM teachers so that would put him in Indonesia about 74 and 75. While in Jogja working on the earthquake relief I ran into a family that adores him and asked if I would send a picture to him. I thought he would be registered with this site but no such luck. Please email me if you have his address.
Chuck Lambson	Send Email

Kamus	09 Mar 2006
I appreciate the language tips found in these messages. I read quite a lot from online news sources and from the Liahona. I have tried several online dictionaries and have found the following link to be the best one for Indonesian-to-English. Unfortunatley it does not go the other way. When searching for a definition type in the whole word, not just the root. http://nlp.aia.bppt.go.id/kebi/index.php
Chuck Lambson	Send Email

From Cindy Teo: HELP NEEDED LOCATE TINY GOUCHNOR!	08 Mar 2006
Dear friends, I have had several requests from several returned missionaries who are asking me if I could help to locate where Jeffrey "Tiny" Gouchnor is at the moment. If there is anyone who knows his whereabout, please let me know. The last time I met him was in USA where I also met his beautiful young wife. Since then, I haven't heard much from him. He was a special friend who enjoyed writing Chinese characters as he was interested in the learning Mandarin. Many of us who came to know him enjoyed his hilarious characters as well as his enjoyable friendship. We missed him for his fun amusing jokes and all. Greetings and appreciation to all from the Lands of Tuilps and Windmills.....Cindy Teo
David Brewer	Send Email

Interpreter Strip	29 Jun 2005
If anyone has any BSA "Bahasa Indonesia" Interpreter Strips for a BSA uniform that I could buy from you, contact me. Email at david@dalesservice.com. Thanks, David Hobson
David G. Hobson	Send Email

From Rick Lehtinen - Indonesian Grammar	06 Jun 2005
I wrote earlier that Bahasa Indonesia is simple. One of the reasons for this is that there is not much in the way of tenses. In English and Spanish words change depending on when something occurred, is occurring, or will occur. For example, in the previous sentence the root word is “occur”, but we added an –ed because whatever occurred, occurred in the past. If we are talking about something in the present, we often add an –ing. For the future, we usually leave the word alone, but add the helper word “will” to the sentence. Lots of examples of these changes exist. Sometimes there is a pattern, sometimes not. This makes English very confusing to those who study it. Be thankful you speak it natively, or at least learned it when you were young. Past / Present / Future Ran, run, will (or shall) run Shot, shoot, will shoot Hit (not hat), hit, will hit Flew (not flied), fly, will fly. Ate, eat, will eat. Fortunately, Bahasa Indonesia avoids all of that. Verbs hold still. Consider the verb “makan” (mah kahn) or (ma kawn), which means “eat”: Yesterday, I makan Today I makan Tomorrow I makan A few days from now, I makan. The Indonesians are okay with this, meaning you have to figure out when someone makan based on the rest of the story. However, there often is a need to establish for sure when something did or will occur. For this there are a series of helper words that function just like the “will” or “shall” in the English examples above, or which do the job of the English word “already”. Saya (sigh ahh) means “I” Akan (ahh kahn or aw kawn) means “will” or “shall” Sedang (suh-dawng) means right now, in that act of, at this time Sudah (sue duh or soo dah) means already Telah (Tell ahh, an Australian who works in a bank) also means already. The subtle difference between will and shall is very similar to the difference between sudah and telah. Modern sources say they are identical, but to me, sudah seems more personal, telah more formal: Sudah mati (already died) Telah meninggal dunia (has already left this world) Sudah also tends to relate to meals. We like to eat, soo…. Saya sudah makan (I already ate) Saya sedang makan. I am now eating. Saya akan makan (I will eat) In some instances, the time marker sedang is not needed, particularly if the action is obvious. Pergi (purr gi, where gi is like a karate robe, like key only softer) means to go. Saya sudah pergi (I went) Saya pergi (I am going) Saya akan pergi (I will go) Datang (dah tawng) means to come. Saya sudah datang (I came) Saya datang (I am coming) Saya akan datang (I will come) (By the way, Sa-ya ahh-kan dah-tang is a very Indonesian sounding sentence.) Pulang (poo long) means to go home, or return to one’s house. Saya sudah pulang (I have gone home) Saya pulang (I am presently going home) Saya akan pulang (I will go home) As long as we are being timely….how about some times of day? Indonesian incorporates the time of day into the names of the meals. Saya makan pagi (pah-gi, where gi rhymes with key only softer) Pagi means morning. “Makan pagi” means breakfast. Saya makan siang (see-yawng) Siang means noon-ish. “Makan siang” means lunch. Saya makan sore (sore-ay, where ay rhymes with hay) Sore means afternoon, early evening. Usually before sundown. “Makan sore” means dinner. And just so that you get your money’s worth, there is “belum”. Belum (buh-loom or bloom where you take it easy getting from b to l) means “not yet”. Now lets have some fun! Saya akan makan pagi (sa ya a kan ma kan pa gi) I will eat breakfast. Saya sudah makan pagi I have already eaten breakfast. Saya sedang makan pagi I am eating breakfast now. Saya belum makan pagi. I have not eaten breakfast yet. Try it for every meal! How do you say you are going TO somewhere. Use “ke” (kuh, not keh) means “to” as in “I am going to Jakarta.”) Saya akan pergi ke Indonesia I will go to Indonesia. Saya sudah pergi ke Indonesia (I have already gone to Indonesia. Saya sedang pergi ke Indonesia (I am presently in the very act of going to Indonesia) Saya belum pergi ke Indonesia (I have not yet gone to Indonesia. Hey, isn’t that cool? You are speaking sentences! Do not get tense about tenses Tenses are nothing to get uptight about. Hormat saya, Rick Lehtinen
David Brewer	Send Email

New York Times article about embassy closure	27 May 2005
May 27, 2005 U.S. Embassy in Indonesia Closes as Web Site Plots an Attack By RAYMOND BONNER New York Times JAKARTA, Indonesia, May 26 - The United States Embassy was closed here on Thursday because of what officials would describe only as an unspecified security threat. But a Western counterterrorism official and a private security analyst said the decision had been made after a diagram of the embassy and details of how best to carry out an attack were posted on a Web site. The diagram, which was posted on www.Istimata.co.nr by a group calling itself the Brigade Istimata International, showed the location of the ambassador's office, surveillance cameras and heat detectors. The posting said that metal and thermal detectors made it impossible for a suicide bomber to carry out the attack inside the embassy. It would be better, the posting said, to use a rocket-propelled grenade fired from the parking area into the ambassador's office. But the best method, the posting said, was to mix 300 pounds of TNT with a combustible rodenticide known as Rodex, creating a bomb that would have a blast area of more than 100 feet. Both the counterterrorism official and the private security analyst said the Web posting was the reason for the embassy closing, and the security analyst said he had learned of it from an intelligence briefing. Both spoke on condition they not be identified by name or nationality. Embassy officials refused to answer any questions about the reasons for the closing, which it announced in e-mail messages to American citizens here on Thursday morning. "Because of a security threat; that's all I can say," said an embassy spokesman, Max Kwak. Asked about the Web site diagram and whether it was possible for a rocket-propelled grenade to penetrate the embassy walls, Mr. Kwak said he was not aware of the diagram. "That is news to me," he said Thursday evening. The embassy, located on a busy street in central Jakarta, has been equipped and reinforced with security barriers since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on New York and the Pentagon. It is now an unwelcoming fortress, with low barriers extending the width of one lane into the street, followed by high walls topped with razor wire. Bulletproof windows have been installed, and the walls in the ambassador's office reinforced. Despite the embassy closing on Thursday, counterterrorism officials say that the threat of a terrorist attack has diminished here. Seeming to underscore this, the Jakarta International School, which most American students attend and which has been a potential terrorist target in the past, remained open on Thursday, as did the American Recreation Club, where embassy personnel and their families swim and play tennis. All other embassies appeared to remain open Thursday, including the Australian and British Embassies, the most likely to close in the event of a generalized terrorist alert. Indonesia's largest terrorist organization, Jemaah Islamiyah, has been considerably weakened because of arrests and improved intelligence gathering by the Indonesian police, Western intelligence and law enforcement officials said in recent interviews. Since a terrorist bombing in October 2002 that killed more than 200 people, the Australian and American governments have undertaken major training programs with the Indonesian police. Separately, and unrelated to the closing of the embassy, Indonesian officials and the security analyst said, intelligence agencies have picked up telephone conversations in recent days suggesting that two of the most wanted terrorists in Southeast Asia - Azhari Husin and Noordin Muhammad Top - were planning attacks in several locations. Mr. Husin and Mr. Top were still recruiting suicide bombers, a Western law enforcement official said on Thursday, but added that they were largely operating on their own, without the support of any major group.
Chad Emmett	Send Email

Binatang kecil -lagu	23 May 2005
This is not the most High-tech post you will see here, but I prepared this as an aid to beginning Indonesian (as opposed to the excellent references for alumnus listed on this site.) I welcome suggestions and improvements. Most of us know the childrens' song Itsee-bitsey spider... Itsee-bitsee spider, crawled up the waterspout, Down came the rain, and washed the spider out, Up came the sun and dried up all the rain, And the itsee-bitsee spider crawled up the spout again." There are three lines for each phrase above. Top is Indonesian, middle is my attempt at phonetics, Bottom is a literal translation. Binatang kecil naik tembok yang tinggi. Bean-a-tong kuh-chill nike tim-boke yawng ting-ee. Animal little climb wall which is high. Lalu turun hujan, binatang jatuh. La-loo too-rune who-john bean-a-tong jaw-too. Later descend rain, animal fall. Lalu terbit matahari, hujan berhenti. La-loo tour-beet Ma-ta-ha-ree, who-john burr-hint-ee. Later arise eye of day, rain stop. Dan binatang kecil naik tembok kembali. Dawn bean-a-tawng kuh-chill nike tim-boke come-ball-ee. And animal little climb wall return. Hormat saya, Rick Lehtinen
Richard N. Lehtinen	Send Email

Language skills	16 Feb 2005
Well i noticed that those who have been home for a while want a way to update their language skills as it were and i have found some awesome ways to do that....the first is by going to the indosiar website http://www.indosiar.com/v4/ and go all the way down to the bottom left corner and there you can stream live TV from the indosiar network for free..of course you would need a broadband connection, but i love it...i try to watch a bit everyday to keep up....also you can find several online radio stations... my favorite is http://www.multilingualbooks.com/online-radio-indonesian.html at this site there are several radio stations that you can stream live to your computer...i hope this helps because this way you can hear and not just read i guess....alright...aku pikir u tulis ini pakai bahasa Indonesia tapi takutnya semua ngak bisa ngerti...hehe...yo wis...dha!!!
Matt C. Primavera	Send Email

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